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Tuesday, 29 December 2009

Farewell Wales - Welcome Cymru



For many emigrants to the New World and afficionados of the game of rugby the word "Wales" must make the heart beat faster, but the word is derived from the Saxon word for foreigner. The native Britons of Celtic and indigenous stock, left to defend the island of Britain following the departure of the Romans, were depicted by Angle and Saxon invaders as foreigners ('wealas') in their own land. Conversely, the English invaders were named 'saeson' by the Britons (the word also meaning 'foreigner' or non-British speaker). The point is that "Wales"' and "Welsh" are names given to the native peoples of Britain by the invaders and the name "Cornwall" refers to the Welsh of the peninsular to which they were confined.

Thus, the people of Wales are foreigners in their own land, much as the Kurds are, in a land which they call home but which is subject to an invasive force which has imposed its alien culture on the inhabitants. Years of indoctrination and use have inured the people to the acceptance of a foreign name as their own, so much so that the heart beats quicker when this name is invoked, on the rugby field  or the Eisteddfod maes.  However, it so happens that the so-called "Welsh" have a proud name of their own as well as for their land, or the remaining land which was not usurped by the settlers from Germany. These lands comprise Cornwall, Wales and Cumbria. Strathclyde and Galloway are now a part of Scotland but were also home to the Britons. The name which describes the British tribes under Roman rule is the Cymry and their land is Cymru.

The Cymry settled in the lands now geographically described as Wales, Cornwall, Cumbria and Strathclyde. The remaining lands of Britain were overrun by the Norse invaders in Northumberland (originally home to the North Cymry) extending to Yorkshire and Lincolnshire, Norfolk (north folk) and Suffolk (south folk), while the plains of Mercia (the Midlands) were occupied by the Angles and southern Britain by the Saxons. (in Sussex,Wessex, Essex). Devon (variously spelled Dyfnaint/Dewnans/Deunans) was a Celtic homeland and the Brythonic language was spoken there during the "Dark Ages" following the invasions. Many Devon placenames remain as evidence (tor, combe, pen, lan, pol, etc.).

Presumably, following the declaration of independence, one of the first acts of the Welsh (Cymric) government will be to announce that the nation of Wales will forever after be named "Cymru". After so many years of use and custom it will seem strange to many inhabitants of Cymru to refer to their homeland by a different name but at least the name will be authentic as well as official. We are at the start of a new year, 2010, so it would seem appropriate for all of us, who care for the nation of which we are a part, to use the correct nomenclature from now on  and get accustomed to calling the nation and its people by the correct name. From henceforth, as far as "Independence Cymru" is concerned we will refer to "Wales" as Cymru, the people of "Wales" as the Cymry, and the "Welsh" language as Cymraeg.

From the archives: Place-names in Wales Cymru
http://alanindyfed.blogspot.com/search?q=place-names+in+wales
Tuesday 14th August 2007

Debate
Should Britain refrain from interfering in other countries' internal affairs?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2009/12/091229_uk_china_execution_sl.shtml
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20091229/tuk-uk-britain-iran-fa6b408.html

Saturday, 26 September 2009

Heritage Minister promotes story of Wales

Heritage Minister sets direction to better tell the story of Wales

A new survey to identify 20th century assets of historic importance in Wales and a register of Welsh Battlefields will be among the priorities of the Heritage Minister, Alun Ffred Jones as he publishes his Strategic Direction Statement for the Historic Environment of Wales today [22 September].



The action outlined in the statement, the first in Wales since 2003, will contribute to the work of ensuring that Wales’ story is told so that the people of Wales and visitors alike gain a better understanding of our Historic Environment. It also provides an opportunity to further celebrate our identity as a nation, our pride in our heritage and the contribution countless men and women have made over the centuries to Wales and the world.

Speaking before his statement in Plenary, the Minister, said:

“Nurturing a living sense of what it is to be a citizen of Wales is a key priority for the Assembly Government. Citizenship is about emotional ties and imagined community, as much with previous generations as with ones to come. Our objective is therefore to help all people in Wales to gain at least some sense of the historic environment in which they live.

“We are all part of the story and the buildings and the archaeology around us help to give a sense of place. People in Wales have experienced a tradition of working in or alongside the industries that were so important in the development of the country. Whole families have worked in local quarries or mines. The chapel and school buildings seen in every community remind us of their focal role in the social history of Wales. The Welsh language and Welsh culture are irrefutably bound to the historic environment of Wales. Everyone has his or her story to tell. And we need to take advantage of all means of telling those stories. We need to be clear that our history and historic environment is part of our story – not something which happened to some one else a long time ago.”

The Minister will announce a package which includes a Statement of his ambition for the historic environment; A Celebration Statement - underlining the importance of the historic environment and its wider impacts and benefits, together with key issues or challenges and thirdly, the headline actions which will be taken by the Assembly Government and its heritage partners.

In announcing his priorities the Minister will commit to actions to conserve and protect the historic environment; to promote heritage led regeneration; to develop imaginative and stimulating ways for people to access Welsh heritage; and to foster new research and learning into Welsh heritage.

The Heritage Minister, said:

“Heritage has many benefits. As my Statement shows, heritage can make an enormous difference to Wales today. Economic benefits through tourism are the obvious example – 90% of international visitors staying in Wales visit cultural sites. This level of activity cannot be underestimated in our economy.”

Among the key actions included in the Minister’s statement are:

* Cadw will carry out a new survey to identify 20th century assets of historic importance and will consult on a Battlefields Register. It will also take measures to develop a modern, clear, accountable system of heritage protection with up to date guidance. To ensure an ongoing dialogue with all sector interests, a further Treftadaeth conference will be convened in July 2010.
* Continued collaboration on the sustainable regeneration of heritage sites and townscapes. Cadw’s ongoing programme of urban characterisation studies to capture the essence of local distinctiveness will help inform regeneration schemes
* Work with the Minister for Children, Education Lifelong Learning and Skills and others on the promotion of the study of Welsh history at community level and in higher education and about the contribution that our historic environment can make to the school curriculum.
* Work with local communities to run events at Cadw sites and encourage local projects which celebrate the Welsh language, place names, local heritage and folklore. Discussions will be held with the third sector on how to develop rewarding opportunities for volunteering and skills development and will help support the creation of a heritage network.
* Ensure collaborative action to tackle access barriers to heritage and through Cadw develop a groundbreaking all Wales Heritage Interpretation Plan.
* Finally, the Minister will convene a Heritage Summit in 2010 to discuss heritage interpretation and the links between heritage and the Arts.

Tuesday, 14 August 2007

Place-Names in Wales

Does it not seem strange to you that when you enter Wales you find place-names displayed in two languages? Perhaps not, as we know that Welsh is the language of Wales , and we may also know that Welsh is the oldest language of literature in Europe .

Nevertheless, the fact that the place-names are 'translated' on the signs is rather strange, at least to me. In no other country of Europe do I know of it. So why is it thus? Possibly because it is thought that the Welsh names may be unpronounceable to foreigners, who are not aware of the phonetics of the language? The English version of the name is not so much a 'translation' as a corruption of the original.

You can imagine a visitor to Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwll'llandysiliogogogoch giving up in despair, though they all call it Llanfair P.G. these days. Many of these place-names are corrupted versions of the original, such as Llandovery (Llan ym ddyfri) or Carmarthen (Caerfyrddin). Even Cardiff does not escape notice, as it is originally Caer ar Daf or city/fort on the river Taf. Swansea is an exception as it was named by the Norse invaders, as well as the island of Skokholm , but its Welsh name is Abertawe. Possibly the worst example is the town of Llantwit Major. Llan in Welsh means church, and the churches were named after Celtic saints, but one could never contemplate there ever being a "St. Twit". I believe that St Athan's is actually named after St Tathan, or Tathan Sant.

So let us bring some sanity into the naming of places in Wales . There needs to be an examination of nomenclature of Welsh towns and cities, and a decision taken on correct and authentic naming. Inevitably, names such as Burry Port will be dropped for Porth Tywyn, Pembrey for Penbre, Kidwelly for Cydweli and so on. And if tourists and others choose to visit this land of mystery and enchantment they can learn to pronounce our corrected names correctly.

Tuesday, 26 February 2008

Celts and Vikings - Little Known Facts

It was the Early Christian Celts who converted the Vikings to Christianity. In Mannin, the present Isle of Man, Celts and Vikings settled down together and formed their small independent nation with the Tynwald as their parliament. On many occasions the Celts of Wales, Cornwall and Strathclyde united with the Vikings from Scandinavia to battle against the Angles and Saxons who were taking over the eastern seaboard and midlands of Britain. They were halted at the rivers Severn and Tamar where the Celts were able to form their own independent kingdoms and princedoms and to stem the Saxon tide.

Later the Normans, who were the descendants of Viking settlers in France, and Bretons, who accompanied William the Conqueror in his invasion of Britain took over the Marcher lands on the borders between the Severn and the Dee and acted as a buffer between the sworn foes of Britons and Saxons. In south and west Wales there was considerable intermarriage between Celts and Normans and many of these Cambro-Normans established settlements in Ireland in and around Dublin, Wexford, Waterford, Kinsale, Cork and Limerick. Many Welsh and Norman links were established between Wales and Ireland and both place-names and family names in Ireland testify to the fact that there were strong Welsh influences in Ireland, as well as the common name "Walsh", very prevalent in eastern Ireland today which denotes a Welsh descent.

It is therefore evident that the Welsh and Irish Celts and the Vikings and Normans (north-men) eventually formed accommodations and alliances which were intended to resist and thrust back the attempts of Anglo-Saxon armies sent out to subject the Celtic peoples of western Britain to their will and increasing domination of Britain, the land of the Brythones. Northern Brittany (Llydaw) was settled by immigrants from Cornwall who found their land was not easy to defend because of the nature of the terrain. Thus Brittany became a "little Britain" populated by Britons who spoke the Brythonic language of Wales and Cornwall. Southern Brittany, which contained the Gaelic population speaking the Goidelic language of Ireland and Scotland (Gaelic), continued to co-exist with their northern British neighbours. This population comprised remnants of the Gauls which Julius Caesar had attempted to exterminate during the Gallic Wars.

(Alan in Dyfed)

Comment published, below:

Bernard (Byn) Walters has left a new comment on your post "Celts and Vikings - Little Known Facts":

In fact I had to come back to you on this because I don't know where you got that from. The Southern Bretons never spoke Gaelic, I mean you can't be Breton and speak Gaelic, that is The language of the Irish and the Scots.The Gauls spoke 'p' Celtic, a variation on Welsh; i.e. what you touched on the other day, Glasgow down to Nantes was Welsh(Brythonic) speaking.The Gaels speak what we refer to as 'q' celtic. Although the whole of France spoke basically the same language, Gaulish, Breton was never spoken in Rennes nor Nantes but Gaulish was and Welsh or Breton was a form of Gaulish that came back over the 'Channel'from Great Britain with a more limited frontier: which brings me to another point, just because someone is called 'Walsh' does not mean that he is a Brythonic Celt or Welsh,it's German to mean that he is different to the person whom he encounters, face to face. Neither the Gaelic speakers from Ireland nor the Normans with their spĂȘcific dialect would have used this term. Admittedly William Wallace was William the Welshman because Strathclyde was a Welsh kingdom,but the name could only be used in the Germanic tongue. Walsh could just as well have been an Irishman for a German speaking Englishman.

Place-names in southern Brittany indicate that the language spoken there was Goidelic (or Gaelic), similar to the language spoken in Ireland today. HOWEVER, this assumption may be faulty, so please read comments. Alan

Friday, 24 August 2007

"There is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come." - Victor Hugo

The Campaign for an independent Cymru

Campaign -
to fly the flag of Wales and not the Union flag
Campaign - to celebrate Welsh national holidays
Campaign - to give recognition to Welsh battle sites
Campaign - to rectify the wrongs in the constitution
Campaign - to bring in a new Welsh Language Act
Campaign - to demand a Parliament for Wales
Campaign - to review funding issues for Wales - Barnett
Campaign - to revert to the true place-names of Wales (only one, no 'translations')
Campaign - to reject "Britishness" and all its forms and disguises

Which campaigns do you support in order of priority?
The time is ripe to talk up independence and fuel the debate.

I would like you all to share the comments of one of our most ardent supporters.
With thanks to Jacky for his thoughtful contribution.............
Jacky said...

Very fascinating question, since all of these in some fashion are essential to eventual devolution as is occurring in Scotland-- but how to prioritize? Among these, I'd place high priority of course on a Parliament for Cymru, as this seems to be a critical vehicle in analogous fashion for Scotland-- with independence albeit taking years to unfold.

But you're right to place such emphasis on cultural factors, since a focus on political independence w/o considering the cultural background would represent an empty, watered-down version of actual freedom. This is an argument that I use (to splendid effect) against the Quisling sympathizers with English imperialism within Ireland, who want to downplay the importance of the Irish Gaelic language and drone on with that stupid argument about "better national priorities." (An argument made even lamer by the fact that Celtic language promotion would cost no more than a few tens of millions of Euros more-- when the US and Britain gleefully piss away billions of Euros every week while being defeated in Iraq.) The forefathers of today's Irish, Welsh and Scottish people fought bitter battles against the English to ensure the survival of their Celtic languages and culture, made even more essential by the fact that the British Isles and Ireland are really the only places where Celtic language and culture still flourish. Whatever happens to individuals in a particular generation, it's the culture that persists through the centuries, and the English imperialists cannot kill the Celtic spirit unless they stamp out the Celtic languages and culture. All the more reason for the Welsh, Irish and Scottish peoples to celebrate and promote their cultures even more.

I would certainly give high priority to the Welsh language act, since promoting the retention and advance of the Welsh language has a tendency of strengthening everything else about Welsh culture that makes it so distinctive.

The key is the youth, since it's the younger generation's attachment to the language that enables it push forward. And a Welsh language act would help to incentivize the retention and active use of the language, just as for example the formal recognition of Irish Gaelic by the EU has greatly increased the prestige and economic value of mastering Gaelic.

As I wrote earlier, sponsoring and supporting an indigenous Welsh-language film industry (along with Scottish Gaelic and Irish language industries) is key to making broader adoption of Welsh feel more natural, the same way that Bollywood has helped to propel
Hindi and other Indian languages to superiority over English in India.

Helping also to promote more popular music in Welsh would be a valuable strategy. I've been surprised at the irony here, in that the Celtic peoples around England excel at music and song, as exemplified by the Celtic origins of e.g. Paul McCartney and John Lennon among others-- yet too often, talented Irish, Scottish and Welsh performers hesitate to perform in their own languages. General promotion of e.g. Welsh, Irish and Gaelic music can help to alleviate this, expedited by the natural beauty of these languages for song!

Along similar lines, immigrants to Wales should be strongly encouraged to learn the Welsh language. This is something that Ireland has been getting smarter about, making it clear to immigrants that while they can start out with English skills, over time, they will be expected to learn and embrace the Irish Gaelic language as the cultural heart of Ireland. Once again, this pride in the native language and culture helps to strengthem them not only among the native population, but among outside figures as well.

Thus along similar lines, after the Welsh language act, I'd definitely put high priority on emphasizing the Welsh place names, and the emphasizing of Welsh identity instead of faux "British" identity. Similar with Welsh national holidays and battle sites, as you say-- all of these things point to an elementally distinct Welsh culture and celebrate it, and this cultural independence is the precursor to political independence.

On the matter of surnames many in Wales are reverting to the Welsh form of nomenclature :
e.g. Rhun ap Iorwerth, Pedr ap Ioan etc..

Saturday, 27 March 2010

England is Surrounded by Celtic Nations

The Celtic League

Aims

The Celtic League presents its aims as including:
"Fostering co-operation between Celtic peoples."
"Developing the consciousness of the special relationship and solidarity between them."
"Making our national struggles and achievements better known abroad."
"Campaigning for a formal association of Celtic nations to take place once two or more of them have achieved self-government."
"Advocating the use of the national resources of each of the Celtic countries for the benefit of all its people."[1]
"Each Celtic nation is conditioned by a different history and so we must not expect uniformity of thought, but instead allow diversity to express itself within the Celtic League. In this way, we may better recognise those areas of possible co-operation and eventually formulate a detailed common policy. With this we can work out which kind of relations between our communities will enable them to enjoy freedoms and liberties at both individual and community level."[2]
Politically, the Celtic league seeks to create six sovereign states from the six Celtic nations it acknowledges as existing, unified in some way. There is some variation in the understanding of these aims, which ranges from general meetings, to an actual federation along the lines of the Nordic Council.[citation needed]
[edit]Branches

Scotland
Ireland
Man
Wales
Cornwall
Brittany
There are six main branches of the Celtic League,[citation needed] often utilising local Celtic language place names: Ireland is known as Éire, Scotland as Alba, Wales as Cymru, Brittany as Breizh, Cornwall as Kernow and the Isle of Man as Mannin.
Brittany
Cornwall
Ireland
Isle of Man
Scotland
Wales

There is also an International Branch, and others based in the USA and London. There used to be a branch in Cape Breton Island, Canada, where a small Scottish Gaelic-speaking community still exists. Attempts to set up branches in Australia, and the Chubut Valley, Patagonia, (where there is a Welsh-speaking colony) have failed until recently though at the end of 2009 a branch has been set up in Patagonia with the help of Welsh-speaking patagonian enthusiasts led by MĂłnica Jones.

Magazines

The Celtic League publishes a quarterly magazine, Carn, which highlights political struggles and cultural preservation issues. The articles are produced in the six living Celtic languages (including Manx and Cornish) in addition to English. The cover of the magazine is a map of the six Celtic countries with their respective Celtic language names beside them. In the past, articles have appeared in French as well. For many years, Carn claimed to be the only regular publication carrying all six surviving Celtic languages.
The Celtic League, American Branch (CLAB) prints its own quarterly newsletter, Six Nations, One Soul,[3] which provides news of Branch activities and events within the Celtic communities in the United States, publishes letters from members, and reviews books and recordings of Celtic interest. It also produces its own calendar each year, with art from members, appropriate quotations and anniversaries.[4]
Other Branches have published their own magazines from time to time, but few have been very long-lived.
[edit]History

Founded in 1961, the present Celtic League grew out of various other Pan-Celtic organisations, particularly the Celtic Congress, but with a more political emphasis. Previously, the likes of Hugh MacDiarmid and others had suggested something along the same lines.
It was started at the 1961 National Eisteddfod which was held at Rhosllanerchrugog near Wrexham in north east Wales. Two of the founding members were Gwynfor Evans and J E Jones, who were respectively president and secretary-general of Plaid Cymru at the time. Interest was expressed by Scottish parties, and also by two prominent Breton exiles, Yann Fouéré and Alan Heusaff.
The Celtic League, American Branch (CLAB) was founded in New York City in 1974. It plays little part in AGMs.

Notable members and former members
Some of the more notable past and present members of the Celtic League have been Plaid Cymru luminary Gwynfor Evans, Alan Heusaff, the historian and writer Peter Berresford Ellis, writer Bernard Le Nail, Manx language revivalist Brian Stowell, and Winnie Ewing, Robert McIntyre and Rob Gibson of the Scottish National Party.

Campaigns
The Celtic League also campaigns for a united Ireland, and the return of the Loire-Atlantique départment to Brittany (see "Bretagne"). Over the years, the Celtic League has campaigned consistently in support of the languages in Celtic nations, and for the return of ancient artefacts, removed from Celtic countries to museums outside of these areas - amongst these are the Lewis Chessmen and the Chronicles of Mann. These campaigns have been conducted in various ways.
The Manx branch of the Celtic League successfully campaigned for the Calf of Man (island) to be transferred from the National Trust in England to the Manx National Trust.[citation needed]
In the mid-1990s, the Celtic League started a campaign to have the word "Alba" on the Scottish football and rugby tops. Since 2005, the SFA have supported the use of Scots Gaelic on their teams's strip in recognition of the language's revival in Scotland.[5] However, the SRU is still being lobbied to have "Alba" on the national rugby strip.[6][7]
The Celtic League has also passed a motion to support the general aims of Independence First, which aims for a referendum on Scottish independence.[8]

Political status of countries

The political status of the the Celtic League's suggested six Celtic nations varies widely. Both the UK and France were traditionally very centralised states (although France more so).
The following Celtic nations have some degree of autonomy, although Ireland consists of the territory of two sovereign states:
Republic of Ireland (26 counties) - independent.
Northern Ireland (6 counties) - under the Good Friday Agreement some autonomy and various provisions were granted on a power-sharing basis, but various controversies between unionists and republicans have caused the British government to rule directly. Northern Ireland now has its own devolved Assembly since 2007.
The Isle of Man - home rule, a British Crown Dependency outside the UK and European Union, arguably the oldest continuous parliament in the world.
Scotland - has had its own devolved Parliament since 1999.
Wales - has had its own devolved Assembly since 1999.
There is also a campaign for a Cornish Assembly. In 2000 the Cornish Constitutional Convention launched the Declaration for a Cornish Assembly campaign. In less than two years, more than 50,000 people signed the Assembly petition and Lord Whitty, in the House of Lords, recognised that Cornwall has a "special case" for devolution. On a visit to Cornwall, John Prescott said "Cornwall has the strongest regional identity in the UK."
Thus three of the countries are completely within the United Kingdom, one partially, and another is a British dependency. Brittany is part of the French state, and does not have any legislative autonomy, but four départements have some financial autonomy as one of the Regions of France, whilst the fifth département is in another French region. The Republic of Ireland is completely independent.

Tuesday, 19 February 2013

Cachau Bant: Mind Your Language

by Tom Law
15 February 201357 Comments
Angry about the 150 year crushing of his native Welsh language, the writer asks 'How would you feel if you were made to speak German?'
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It’s hard to give a toss about language when you’re an English speaker. Because losing your language is not something you’ll ever have to worry about; thanks to the glory days of the British Empire.
English is a dominant language – the third most common in the world. It’s a source of national pride – a gift to the planet. It helped to civilise the fuzzy wuzzies and spread culture and joy throughout distant lands.
So when you hear people bleat on about their language disappearing – it doesn’t really register. There are more important things to worry about in life than some bloke in Aberystwyth demanding a bi-lingual sign on his local fish and chip shop.
But what if things were different – if the cultural boot was on the other foot? If the English language found itself under attack. Let’s say those loony UKIP types were right – Brussels really did want to absorb Britain into some creepy all-powerful Euro state.
And that’s exactly what they did.
The Welsh language has declined so rapidly because the English placed a pillow over its face and smothered it.
Germany emerged as the dominant player and German became the common language. It started being used in the legal, government and business worlds, so more English began to learn German as a way to improve their job prospects.
German corporations controlled the media and began to bludgeon the public with anti-English messages. The English language was causing many of the country’s problems – it was dusty and outdated. It helped to explain why the English were such a backwards, thick and bigoted people. The language was holding the nation back – blocking its progress.
Middle-class parents wanted the best for their children, and that meant giving them the gift of German. The BBC began to broadcast more of its output in German. And society started to split and divide along language lines.
Your prospects in life became determined by the language you spoke. German became something for the educated and the powerful. English for the manual classes and the poor – for the people who clean your office toilets.
And within a couple of generations, it was all over for English. It’s now a cultural curiosity – spoken only by weirdos at clog dancing festivals in Northumberland.
As a German speaker you’re sick of hearing these people drone on about their language. You’re sick of them chuntering on about Dickens and Keats and Dad’s Army and The Beatles and all the rest of the cultural twaddle that you don’t understand. You don’t care about some bloke in Altrincham moaning about the German signs on his local fish and chip shop.
Now, this all sounds absolutely nuts; like the deranged ramblings of some purple nosed Daily Mail columnist. But this is what has happened to Wales and the Welsh language over the past 150 years. It was done by England and it continues to tear the country apart, affecting every aspect of Welsh life.
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Because back in the 1840s, around 80 percent of people living in Wales were Welsh speakers, many of them spoke no English at all. Fast forward to the recent 2011 census and that number has dropped to below 20 percent.
But this hides the true scale of the decline. Welsh used to be the language of the everyday world, people would spend their entire lives never speaking English. Now, it’s rare to hear Welsh being spoken on the streets, apart from in a dwindling number of communities in north west Wales.
You probably don’t care much about this if you’re an English speaker – it doesn’t affect you. And that includes the majority of Welsh people who were brought up speaking English; who have been taught at English language schools, watched English telly, listened to English music and read English books.
And I’m one of them. Language was a choice made for me by the school I went to. I was taught to read and write in English with Welsh only taught at secondary school. It was treated the same as any other foreign language – like French or German. It gave you tourist Welsh – enough to ask directions to the nearest zoo in Colwyn Bay – and not much else.
So why did Welsh schools stop teaching children to speak the language?
The popular narrative is that it’s just a natural process – a stronger and healthier language replaces an older and weaker one. That the Welsh language is dying of natural causes – like an elderly relative withering away. It’s sad but inevitable. What can you do?
That’s the common explanation – but it’s bollocks.
The Welsh language has declined so rapidly because the English placed a pillow over its face and smothered it. It has taken around 150 years to complete, there have been occasional bouts of kicking and thrashing against, but it’s pretty much job done.
And it was only when the body was limp that England placed some chocolate biscuits on the bedside cabinet – bilingual road signs, a Welsh TV channel. And then started to berate the lifeless patient for its lack of appetite.
England’s policy towards Wales is not the only reason for the decline, but it’s the main one. It’s the consequence of the state treating the Welsh language as a sickness which needed to be cured.
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It’s the way that the British Empire used language to control their various colonies during the C19th. It was a benign method of dominating occupied nations with minimal bloodshed or confrontation – a very English form of tyranny.
Whether it was Ireland, Singapore, Nigeria or North Borneo – the method was the same. English would become the official language used for government, commerce and law. Natives chosen for positions of power would be sent off to English public schools to learn the language and the ‘British’ way of life.
It would seep down through society, exploiting people’s natural desire to better themselves, to have the best opportunities in life. In doing so, it created a vicious form of divide and rule – collaborators versus separatists, English speakers versus native speakers. It was a seed which, once planted, took on a malevolent life of its own – spreading and mutating over generations.
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This is exactly what happened in Wales. The country in the C19th was viewed by the English as being a dangerous and lawless land – Wild Wales. It was a fear fuelled by the growth of Welsh working class radicalism; the rise of the Chartist movement, outbreaks of rebellion such as the Merthyr Rising of 1831 and the Rebecca Riots of the 1840s.
These were Welsh people joining together to fight against corruption, inequality and injustice. But they were portrayed in the London media as being a kind of sub-human rabble; wild and barbaric people who babbled and plotted in their primitive language. It was a view endorsed by the Government; an 1847 report into the state of Welsh education and morality found the country’s population to be dirty, lazy, drunken and over-sexed.
The report concluded that the main problem with Wales was its language. And the cure was simple – the eradication of Welsh from the education system. It proposed that state funded English language schools should be set-up – and that’s what happened. It’s one of these schools where I, like most Welsh people, was taught.
So a deranged report by three English inspectors who couldn’t speak Welsh and who didn’t have any background in education became the blueprint for Welsh schooling; the reason that generations of Welsh people have been taught only English.
But the report’s other toxic legacy was to give many Welsh speakers a deep-rooted sense of inferiority and shame about their language. It was no longer something to be proud of, it was a problem that needed to be tackled. It was a sickness infecting the country, something the English had found the cure for.
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The power of this feeling can be seen during the late C19th with the practice of ‘Welsh Not’. The ‘WN’ initials were carved onto a wooden plaque which school kids were made to wear around their neck if heard speaking Welsh in the classroom. The pupil wearing the plaque at the end of the day would be beaten. It was a practice endorsed by Welsh parents who wanted the best for their children.
This division of the population by language has been eating away at the country ever since. It has created two versions of Wales, two distinct cultures which view the other as a threat. What one side gains, the other side loses. What’s good for one, is bad for the other.
It has left non-Welsh speakers feeling like outsiders in their own country, forever left out in the cold and staring back in at a history and culture they can’t access; at jobs they’re not qualified to do. For Welsh speakers, they have been battered from all sides, endlessly under attack, having to justify the use of their own language – mostly to fellow Welsh people.
It’s a cultural civil war which has brought out the worst aspects of both sides. A nation which once fought for its rights, which fought against inequality and injustice has been effectively turned in on itself.
If the attack on the Welsh language was done to subdue and weaken the country, to create a servile and utterly compliant people who would accept their British medicine – then it can only be seen as a monumental success.
Wales has become a husk of a nation. The decline of the language, the stripping away of links to its history and culture, has induced a kind of dementia. It’s a country which no longer remembers who or what it is – so it simply exists. And accepts the guiding hand of its neighbour.
The removal of the Welsh personality has created a void which is being gleefully filled by the English media’s tub thumping brand of Britishness – the royal family, the Armed Forces, Team GB and all that. And there seems little hope of anything changing.
There’s no fight or energy left. No upsurge of anger. No dissent. No political will. No obvious solution. Just a blank stare, a rugby top and a grim Welsh cheeriness; a nihilistic acceptance of fate. While Scotland gains confidence and considers independence, Wales is left retreating into the arms of its abusive partner and going gently into that good night.

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Elwood9:12 am, 15-Feb-2013
And your solution is?
Harry Paterson9:23 am, 15-Feb-2013
Excellent article. A vivid and sickening picture of English/British cultural imperialism.
Rachel9:51 am, 15-Feb-2013
Superb article. The hostile attitude towards the Welsh language infuriates me, it's based on ignorance and intolerance and you are spot on in all you say. Da iawn!
Marisa9:58 am, 15-Feb-2013
so, so sad. I hope Welsh will find the strenght to rebel and reconquer language, history and self-confidence.
Mark10:12 am, 15-Feb-2013
Excellent summary of historical events and internal tensions in Wales. And there's no mistaking the cause of it all.
Gareth10:17 am, 15-Feb-2013
An exceptional read for a Friday morning. Fascinating, illuminating and understandably furious.
Fred12:50 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Or, to put it a different way - Wales was a nation of a few hundred thousand prior to industrialisation. When the industrial revolution occured, people came from England, Ireland, Scotland, France, Poland, Italy, Spain, Haiti, Somalia, the Far East, the Caribbean, and Scandiavia to live and work in the mines, iron works, steel works, and docks. Somewhere a language had to be found that would act as a middle ground between them all. At the beginning when fewer immigrants were present, that was Welsh. Later, when the vast majority of immigrants came from England, that was English. To say that Welsh was "suffocated" is a crass misreading of history. But hey, that's the nationalists for you.
Richard1:30 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Fred - What has this got to do with Nationalists ? I'm no nationalist, but I am a proud speaker of the Cymraeg. Go grab your copy of the the Daily Mail, place it under your arm and goand get rid of some of that crap !
Geraint1:35 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Fred, you miss the point entirely. It's not that there was mass immigration to parts of Wales, but it's that there have been deliberate and concerted attempts over centuriess to marginalise and stifle the language too. There's immigration to England at the moment but that won't kill English, because it's a language of power and status - as Welsh wasn't and isn't. You misread history egregiously.
Cymrodor1:35 pm, 15-Feb-2013
An interesting read. "There’s no fight or energy left. No upsurge of anger. No dissent. No political will. No obvious solution. Just a blank stare, a rugby top and a grim Welsh cheeriness; a nihilistic acceptance of fate." This certainly isn't true of all individuals, but unfortunately is apparent in those who matter, including, sadly, our Welsh-speaking First Minister. There's an amusing clip (and probably informative for many) of a 1980s Welsh kids TV dramatisation of Lingen, Symons and Johnson's blue books report on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiB533mhq64
Han2:03 pm, 15-Feb-2013
To FRED, Why did you use 'few hundred thousand' preindustrial? Preindustrial parish records show that the majority of englands parishes are less densely populated than those in Wales in 1670 large population around the English cities, but Wales more populated per land mass than England.If you then add an English influence in the industrial South Wales corridor and the steel works and mines of the North East yes the population increase in those areas explains some of the statistical changes but does not explain the decline of the language geographicly outside of those places up to the modern day other than those mention in the article. Don't know what your trying to get at with 'Nationalists' is it a dirty word like the NF or BNP what would be your attitude to Tibetan Nationalists whose culture and language is being changed by China's industrial needs? There are a lot of modern people who move here from England who state quite openly that they wanted to live in a white area because they didn't like the fact you didn't hear English spoken anymore where they came from and how the council had services in other languages for these people who had come in, but in doing so are doing the same here!!
Fred2:16 pm, 15-Feb-2013
But, Geraint, the English language is also the language of ordinary people. My own ancestors who came from Somerset and Wiltshire to work in the Rhondda were not oppressing anyone, they'd come to find a better-paid job in an Ocean Colliery than they could find as a farm labourer. That's true of thousands of people who moved here. Immigration is fundamental to the story of the language in the nineteenth and twentieth centuries because it reveals a population active in making its own choices and decisions. There is absolutely immigration to England at the moment but we're not talking about immigration of the kind that takes the population from, say, 250,000 people to over 2 million in a century. That's the fundamental difference in the Welsh case and it's what makes the decline of the Welsh language not about top-down imposition (as the nationalist story of oppression relies upon) but about bottom-up social change. That doesn't make me a Daily Mail reader nor does it mean I've misread history egregiously nor, in fact, does it mean I don't respect the Welsh language, it simply means I don't share the nationalist reading of Welsh history.
Gethyn2:25 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Spot on, and a brilliant article. I grew up in Mid-Wales, in an English speaking school. They started teaching Welsh the year I left, which I suspect was a cursory gesture to an embryonic 'Cool Cymru'. I then moved across the border and was absolutely amazed by the anti-Welsh sentiment with people joking about whether I'd got my passport - all of this incredibly confusing because I didn't feel particularly Welsh for all the reasons you mention in your piece. You hit the nail on the head sir, my sense of belonging is certainly the worse for being dislocated from its biggest cultural connection.
The Intruder3:37 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Why not adopt the Catalonian linguistic immersion program (no matter what the Saxon-speaking people say and protest)
Craig Weatherhill4:12 pm, 15-Feb-2013
The irony is that this DID happen to English in the 14th century. The Norman-French speaking ruling classes put a pillow over English and smothered it to the brink of extinction. That English got a second chance at all is an even bigger irony - it was saved by 3 Celtic-speaking scholars: John of Cornwall, Richard Pencrych and John Trevisa. As a result of their work, English took over from Norman-French as the official language of the Court within 50 years. And on it went from there. If those 3 scholars had directed their studies elsewhere, we'd all be speaking Norman-French today! With a history like that, you'd have thought a bit of gratitude from London might have benefitted the indigenous languages, but....no.
Charlotte Britton (@CharlotteHB89)4:16 pm, 15-Feb-2013
I know it might not be much, but I'm an English person, English speaking living in Swansea and I am trying really hard to learn Welsh, and I support and push the use of the welsh language in my organisation. I am happy to support the language in the little ways I can.
Llyr Alun Jones4:21 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Twll tin bob Sais.
Graham5:32 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Llyr, if you'e going to insult us in Welsh, please try and get your mutations right, there's a good lad.
H.5:47 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Exactly the same was done to Scotland and it's Gaelic, but in an even more ruthless and destructive way. Now only around 1% (if that) speak Scotland's native language. If you destroy a people's language and identity, then you can control them. That's been the English Empire's way for hundreds of years, and it's still with us today.
Hugh Evans6:13 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Superb article that is 100% true in its analysis, and what's really sad is that it may well be too late as the Welsh don' t have the awareness or desire to change anything. I know , as I live in a community that was almost entirely Welsh speaking about 30 years ago. Its like living amongst zombies slowly suffocating in a sea of anglo-american cultural tat .
bob6:58 pm, 15-Feb-2013
I attended a Welsh speaking school in south Wales and was punished for communicate in English. Full of Welsh nationalist and pedophiles! I now am fluent in three language's , live in Wales and choose not to communicate in welsh as a result of nationalist propaganda who believe only their version of welsh identity counts. PS I shall not respond to posts from nationalists I have long since given up on debating with closed minds.
Jeronimo Constantina8:14 pm, 15-Feb-2013
"How would you feel if you were made to speak German?" Most ironic, because in Welsh, the English are no different from Germans. "The word Saeson is the modern Welsh word for 'English people'" My language is also threatened by Filipino, aka Tagalog, the national language of the Philippines, so I certainly identify with the Welsh and the obliteration of their language and heritage.
Trevor9:51 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Quite an intereting read and historically correct(ish). The authurs conclusion is a load of total and utter crap, shite rubbish. Welsh is one of the oldest 'live' languages in the world, there is nothing stopping anyone from learing it, everything in Wales signs is written in Welsh and it i widely spoken, so where does this prat of an auther get his thinking from??
Trevor9:59 pm, 15-Feb-2013
Which planet is this prat of an auther on?? A nice piece of 'creative' writing though!
sel brackley11:30 pm, 15-Feb-2013
fred..no one mentions immigration ..its the Welsh Not bit that you so readily leave out of your arguement
Rhys12:42 am, 16-Feb-2013
Bob. Name the paedophiles. If you don't, it is a fair assumption that you are lying.
Bothered1:03 am, 16-Feb-2013
http://youtu.be/EkwA5GJiQx4
Paul1:31 am, 16-Feb-2013
Beautifully written and presented argument about something that is the essence of a people.. It's language. Fred does make valid points regarding the decline of welsh.. And there are many other reasons for the decline of yr iaith .. None of which are specific to the satanesque proximity of yr sais or why else would other minority language groups throughout Europe have suffered similar or fatal decline. This happened because of a number of sadly more prosaic reasons.. The tribalism inveighed by defining your identity by what you are not.. A la the daily mail... And many others is venal and hateful.. We are welsh, and like it or not history and DNA make us brythoniaid which would include a large number of those across the current borders in England & Scotland ... The language's future would do much better if the passion energy and resource focused purely on the language could be also applied to the economy of rural Wales .. This is not happening.. All we are doing is applying bandages until this issue is given the attention it desreves
John1:32 am, 16-Feb-2013
"and it i widely spoken [sic]" Which planet do you live on, have you even been to Wales? The truth is hearing Welsh being spoken in public is rarer than hen's teeth.
Rhys2:28 am, 16-Feb-2013
Fred, no one could deny the effect that immigration had on the language. However, that is only a part of the story. You unfairly discount the author's critique when in fact, the effect of the Blue Books on the language's prospects was every bit as damaging, if not more so. The reports are available to be read online; http://archive.org/details/reportsofcommiss00greaiala If you choose to give them a quick scan, you will discover a document archetypal of ugly Victorian imperialism, perceived cultural superiority and outright racism. Their consequences, both in terms of education and in destroying the confidence of the Welsh people in their native tongue, were enormous and extended well beyond the industrial heartland of the South Wales coalfield and its associated ports, where the effect of immigration was greatest.
Richard Rogers6:50 am, 16-Feb-2013
Excellent article. Me and a few of my Welsh friends are actually trying to stop the decline of the language. We've set up a Facebook group at http://www.facebook.com/groups/bringwelshback/ and anyone is free to join. It's a grouo where we help each other to learn Welsh, and we talk about anything Wales related. There's also prizes to be won.
Richard10:53 am, 16-Feb-2013
I'm sure that the author is aware of the fact that Wales has its own parliament and government with powers over most domestic affairs and that in 2011 64 per cent of those who voted in a referendum on giving the Welsh parliament full legislative powers over the areas under its responsibilities. Is that a nation with no life left in it? Some "fundamentalist" nationalists seem to be unable to understand how many (probably the majority actually) Welsh people can be both proudly Welsh and also loyal to many "British" institutions such as the Royal Family, the Armed Forces and Team GB. They (ie those nationalists) may not like that but a failure to acknowledge that such a dual sense of loyalty is possible does in my view show a misunderstanding of the psychology of many if their fellow country men and women. And to blame it on the "English" is naive and simplistic to say the least. The claim that some sense of " Britishness" is incompatible with Welsh patriotism does not in my view stand up to serious and objective scrutiny.
Abi Cussler11:38 am, 16-Feb-2013
I'm Welsh and do not recognise this bleak portrayal of our contemporary culture or the state of our language. Demonising the English over this, more than 150 years after the Blue Paper, when UK-wide taxes are used to subsidise the language (& rightly so), is a gross misrepresentation of the situation in 2013. The most recent census figures are disappointing because they don't seem to reflect the positive aura around the language, that has been increasingly apparent over the last couple of decades. This kind of reactionary talk - dredging up old arguments for no constructive reason whatsoever - does more to damage that aura than preserve it. So, a sadly divisive, inaccurate and toxic article. Welsh prospers in 2013 when it is inclusive and celebratory.
Richard5:32 pm, 16-Feb-2013
Self Rule is not a sin!
Richard5:54 pm, 16-Feb-2013
I suggest Abi and Fred read the title again "How the Welsh language has been destroyed by English governments" This is attacking the government/state.....not attacking random people from england You seem to completely misunderstand that
Kelvin Jenkins6:36 pm, 16-Feb-2013
Who says it's rare to hear Welsh spoken in public? I live in Mid-Wales. When I go to my dentists or my doctor's surgery I usually hear more Welsh than English spoken around me by both staff and visitors. I have a shop and I speak Welsh to customers on a daily basis. However it has to be said that the census figures do show a depressing downward movement of the language.
Kelvin Jenkins6:41 pm, 16-Feb-2013
For anyone interested in reading the text of the Blue Books in detail (the historical Treachery of the Blue Books/ Brad y Llyfrau Gleision), the entire text is available onliner in facsimile, courtesy of the National Library of Wales. http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=thebluebooks
James7:40 pm, 16-Feb-2013
Interesting that less than 20% of the comments are written in Welsh...
GlĆ·n7:42 pm, 16-Feb-2013
I speak Welsh and have studied languages for a long time now, and it should be noted that the Welsh Not is generally thought by many linguists to have been an inefficient tactic to reduce the use of Welsh by kids. That's not to say the English authorities haven't oppressed the Welsh language, but just the WN wasn't effective. Having spoken to all of my Welsh friends (none of whom speak Welsh as a first language, only some speak it as a second) the main reason today they don't use Welsh is because all of the media they consume is through the medium of English - those God-awful MTV reality shows, pop music, Hollywood films etc. S4C just doesn't produce the high-quality programming my friends apparently want.
john boy8:38 pm, 16-Feb-2013
what is welsh
Sian Williams10:35 pm, 16-Feb-2013
Richard - the Welsh Assembly has to obtain permission from Westminster to pass legistlation on anything important like health or education - and we have no say at all on the really important matters (the constitution, defence, energy - coal, oil, gas, nuclear, renewables - employment, financial and macroeconomic matters, social security) are Westminsters alone. If we had power over all those things as any country should have - you can be sure that no one would have a problem with a team GB and so on. Brito-mania is rammed down our throats in the media for political gain, mostly.....please tell me you've noticed the amount of TV programs containing the word British lately? Even my 9 year old daughter commented the other day on how her crisp packet had the word British about 5 times on the product description on the back, lol :) - don't worry, she isn't being radicalised......but she does know the difference between the Parliament of Great Britain and the English people, even at her tender age. There's NO anti English sentiment in my Welsh nationalist household.
Richard11:16 pm, 16-Feb-2013
Sian, The 2011 referendum that I mentioned was about giving the Welsh Assembly (or Senedd) the right to make laws within its area of responsibility WITHOUT Westminster's permission and it was of course passed. As for macroeconomic policy, Wales has no less say in that than countries such as the Irish Republic that are in the Euro and which I suspect the majority of those who're in favour of "independence" for Wales would like for Wales. The German parliament gets to see Ireland's budget before the Irish Dail (parliament)
Sian Williams12:58 am, 17-Feb-2013
Oh please Richard - I'm sure you know that law making powers over those 20 areas mean very little in the grand scheme. Take energy for instance - The Welsh Govt can only make decisions over projects of up to 50MW. Anything higher is Westminsters project. At a time when the renewables sector is only thing growing, Wales with it's ample natural resources *should* be coming into it's own.......but we're not in a position to persue ambitious projects of our own .....to make our own money, to pay for the social ambitions we lefties tend to have like looking after our elderly properly and to pull the valleys out of poverty......Simultaneously we're told by the Brit media that we're ”scroungers, unproductive, ungreatful and selfish for asking for road signs in our own language......and how's about those free prescriptions?”. Do you think we're in a good position? A nation that's traditinally left wing, and continues to vote left, but must endure a Tory govt because they've been voted in by the majority of the UK......a nation who's media is squarely in the UK OK camp? A media (thinking Wales Online here of course) that is quite comfortable and even revels in attacking any attempt to protect and nurture the Welsh Language? The situation sucks frankly Richard.
Sian Williams1:32 am, 17-Feb-2013
Additionally - understand that my comments re looking after our elderly and so on does not come from an insular, inward place. Vulnerable people everywhere matter just as much - and I think one of the best thing we can do for them is 'be the change we want to see in the world'. The Tory party is on a morally bankrupt ideological path IMO......and we 3 million in Wales have no hope of changing that democratically from here. But we can be a small country that sets a good example, and in so doing put pressure on the English parliament. Anyway, I think I'm going OT just a bit.......
Kelvin Jenkins2:17 am, 17-Feb-2013
James. Mae'r Cymry Cymraeg yn ddwyieithog. Mae'r dudalen hon yn Saesneg. Dyna'r rheswm. Iawn?
The Intruder7:54 am, 17-Feb-2013
GlĆ·n, I think S4C should learn from Catalonian public television (TV3/K3/C33); competing while contributing to the normalization of Welsh
Richard5:06 pm, 17-Feb-2013
Sian, surely you've got to agree that the Welsh Government does have the freedom to follow a distinctive agenda in the areas of health and education in particular. And no one can argue that those aren't two areas that DO make a difference to the lives of most people. Examples where distinctive policies have been followed include as you say free prescriptions, university tuition fees, and not setting up "academies" and "free schools". Whether or not you agree or disagree with the policies that have been followed in Cardiff Bay, how effective they've been and how much difference they've made to the lives of people in Wales is of course an entirely different matter but I think it's indisputable that the Welsh Government does now have considerable scope to "do its own thing" in several devolved areas if it so chooses and that it does not have to do the same as Westminster
Trevor6:43 pm, 17-Feb-2013
Yes I have been to Wales often visit relatives there, North and South. Was born and brought in Aberdare. My father pome Welsh as did my grandparents and most other of my Welsh relatives, my daughter and her friends speak it often, so yes I would say it is widely spoken, it's taught in schools and Aberystwith Uni too. So where is his arguement about it being suppressed by the nasty English. If anyone wants to learn the language and speak it they are free to do so. As I said it's one of oldest spoken languages in the world, great let's keep it alive otherwise it will have the same demise as Scottish and Irish Gaelic languages. "Use it or lose it" but don't bleat nonsensical crap about it being suppressed, it isn't!!!
Trevor6:52 pm, 17-Feb-2013
"John" Scroll up aand read the comments written by Kelvin Jenkins, he also agrees it is widely spoken, he's a fluent speaker too!! The bloke who wrote the article is on the wrong planet
Meredydd12:12 am, 18-Feb-2013
MAE'R IAITH CYMRAEG YN MARW OHERWYDD FOD Y CYMRY YN HUNANOL TUAG AT EU IFANC!! The Welsh language is dying because of the greed and selfish attitude of its elders, the exact people who moan how the language is dying out. There is a simple explanation to it all, and to be fair to the English, they are being used as a scapegoat to point the blame to. I can freely say this as I am Welsh and it is my first language. The problem is, the elder welsh people sell property to the highest bidder, thus outselling to young Welsh people who have lived in Wales. The edlers would rather see a wallet full of money than to HELP THEIR OWN by sellingtheir properties to young Welsh families who don't have the riches of the English. We young Welsh folk are forced to abandon our communities due to a lack of AFFORDABLE housing, lack of work, and thus are forced to migrate away to places where English is the main language, and this is whats Killing the Welsh language. The greed of their own people. If only these idiots would stop looking for scapegoats and lok closer to home and admit their shame and guilt then the Welsh language might just make it into 2030!
Matt6:27 am, 18-Feb-2013
Late, but... Glyn, your friends don't speak Welsh to each other because it's not their 1st language. All S4C programmes could be BAFTA winners, and it still wouldn't make 1st-language English-speakers speak Welsh to each other. That's just not how sociolinguistics work. Not that I'm arguing against Welsh-medium education for 1st-language English-speaking kids who(se parents) opt for it. It has its uses and benefits, it's just that getting these kids to speak Welsh to each other isn't one of them. Also, Intruder, comparing Welsh to Catalan, and S4C to Catalan TV, is comparing apples to oranges. Catalan has 20 times the speakers.
Matt6:52 am, 18-Feb-2013
Forgot to reply to Glyn about the Welsh Not. Unlikely it had much effect on that generation speaking Welsh when out of the teachers' earshot. But it would've played a role in that generation choosing not to raise their children through Welsh. It was an intergenerational effect, not immediately observable but still there. But yeah, it definitely wasn't the biggest factor in the decline of Welsh - that would be industrialization and sudden population growth through influx of workers (mostly English and Irish). It's only normal for an unofficial, unprestigious language to decline in those circumstances. On that note, I don't understand the surprise over the recent census. The language's heartlands see the highest numbers of monoglot English incomers. It doesn't take a nuclear scientist to figure out the percentage of Welsh speakers will fall. Not saying monoglot English incomers are a bad thing,just looking at it from a socioloinguistic perspective.
Michael9:31 am, 18-Feb-2013
Fred, history shows that the English oppressed all the indigenous languages of the British isles and further afield, they tied a knot round children's necks and did an even better job of stamping out Scots Gaelic, that's got nothing to do with nationalism it's the plotting of a government to stamp out a language in an effort to among other things remove a racial memory. All imperialist empires tried it, it's not right or justifiable any way you look at it
Sian Williams11:50 am, 18-Feb-2013
Hey Richard. Yes I agree the devolved powers we have are better than none at all - good progress has been made - but unless we have full political autonomy the Conflict of Interest that inevitably exists in this situation will undermine any efforts to protect the Welsh langauge. Even when/if the Welsh govt get a say on large urban development plans (plans that will change the landscape of Wales and it's communities) - and if I may go on a tangeant - trident (would an Indeodnent Wales want WMD's?) titan prisons (a very right wing idea - almost dickensian - even in the most calculating sense most experts agree these are a false economy) future nuclear power plans (we already produce more energy that we use!) - the vast majority of MP's within the Welsh assembly belong to Westminster based parties. Did you know (I only discovered this myself yesterday) that on a bill to further devolve energy powers to Wales......26 out of 27 Welsh Labour MP's voted against. That's all but one Labour MP in Wales voting that it's in Wales' best interests to have no further power over energy....................or is that Britains best interests? (That Blue Tory Right Wing Britain that Labour prop up? The one we didn't vote for? Again, please understand that this is not a lack of concern for rest of the people of the British Isles......it's a belief that to make a difference for ourselves *and* others we are more effective as a small nation.) Re the comments saying that it's up to the Welsh people on the ground to keep it alive - I agree that's part of it, but without the economic levers in the hands of people who have no conflict of interest between Wales and Britain - the Welsh Language has the sword of damacles perpetually above it's head. We need to make our own way, forge our own economy, create our own employment and wealth to keep the Welsh language alive.
dorris7:27 pm, 18-Feb-2013
Good piece, well written and accurate. It's interesting to hear people say that hearing Wlesh being spoke in Wales is 'rarer than hens' teeth' That depends on where you go and whether you speak it yourself. As a Welsh speaker myself I'm able to live my life pretty much through the medium of Welsh and I'm two a good hundred miles from the 'heartlands'. It's particularly good to see a positive attitude on a board such as this when what one is used to reading is the poisonous trolling on the Waelsonline site whenever the language is discussed
Roger7:28 pm, 18-Feb-2013
Nice article, Mr Law ! As a French, I feel the same about our local cultures and languages that were murdered by the French Jacobinism. French took the place, physically, socially and politically. Speaking a native language was for peasants. If you wanted your children to have a good social place, you had to teach them French. In public places, it was forbidden to speak Briton (celtic) and to spit on the floor ! If you were caught speaking "patois" (native language) in the school yard, you could be beaten by your teacher, who encouraged your comrades to report the names of those they had heard speaking not French... Now, there are bilingual schools in France where the co-teaching language is a native one (Briton in the Diwan, Occitan in the calandretas, Basque in the Ikastolas, etc...) A new pride is rising. But a shy one, fighting against centuries of smothering pillows on our faces... Maybe, our Children or grand children, will be proud of speaking their own native language again, and to use it not only with animals or for fun, but in every act of living?