The collapse of the banking system has called into question the issue of independence for Wales and for Scotland. With the problems mounting on the government of Iceland and the downturn of the Irish economy has come the questioning of independence as a valid and legitimate goal. How, they say, would Scotland, or Wales, have prospered if it wasn´t for the British government to come to the rescue?
What would have happened without Gordon Brown and his trusted Chancellor?
Well, what do you think?
"The Nineteenth century saw a great Springtime of Nations as the revolutions of 1848 saw new countries created the length and breadth of Europe. In our world today we are now seeing our own Spring Awakening with people and cultures that have long been dormant and subdued asserting their right to exist, their right to dream." Adam Price MP
Real independence is standing on your own two feet when times are hard - if this is not something you feel Wales and Scotland can stomach, then forget the idea of freedom - you are too weak to handle it.
ReplyDeleteThe UK will, most likely, be going bust again within the next 2 years. Where will Wales and Scotland be then> at the back of the queue waiting for handouts - that is not what independence looks like - that is just a boy camping in the garden coming inside when it starts to rain!
I think Wales and Scotland would be much better off, if they had become independent ages ago.
ReplyDeleteThe Westminster Parliament is completely rotten and unfit for purpose.
The Welsh and Scottish peoples have no future in the United Kingdom. (Kingdoom, what a finger error).
The problem for Welsh nationalists seems to be that they have no 'plan of campaign' other than getting MP salaries and pensions for select Welsh people!
HEY PEOPLE!!! The banks get a "£600 billion bail-out". Parliament is not consulted, there is no vote, but the British government has to get approval from the EU commission. And this is not important enough to mention?
ReplyDeleteNow re-read the twaddle from Charles Moore on Saturday, the man who thinks we are still a sovereign nation and can do what we like because we haven't joined the euro.
And the nationalists wish to hand all to europe on a plate.
ReplyDeleteI am a nationalist and I don't want to be a part of the EU so don't tar all nationalists with the same brush Anonymous.
ReplyDeleteI want full, 100% Independence, and that means from the UK and the EU.
Thanks, nitrotab, your point is noted.
ReplyDeleteIn August, Helen Mary Jones wrote an article in the Western Mail arguing that Iceland was an example of the kind of country Wales could become if it separated from England and Scotland.
ReplyDeleteAnti-separatists like me will obviously be having a chuckle about that.
There's no reason why small countries *have* to find global recessions harder than big countries, but the fact is that Plaid's chosen exemplar, Iceland, is bankrupt.
If the Icelanders survive; they will emerge as a much stronger and wiser nation from this crisis: unlike Britain!
ReplyDeleteYes, but Iceland is not alone in the world as the credit crises is hitting all nations pretty hard right now so your observations are not really valid Anon.
ReplyDeleteI can always rely on Nitrotab to take the words right out of my mouth!
ReplyDeleteAs for the EU, the Labour Party and the Tory Party will give every inch of Wales to the EU regardless of whether the Welsh people agree or not. and most of them have been bought off already.
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